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Well, *somebody* has to do it correctly:

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Mallet wrote:
All these games are most deserving for a Lifetime Achievement award ?

I doubt any single person thinks they are all deserving, no. But yes, each one of these is that highly regarded by at least one person on this site.
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I will say, however, that this game is quite likely the most deserving in it's own category.

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Mallet wrote:


I will say, however, that this game is quite likely the most deserving in it's own category.

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You see? Different tastes exist. This is not one I would give any award to, sorry. And yes, I know it's possibly the only game in its category. I'd still wait for another.
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sos1 wrote:
Mallet wrote:


I will say, however, that this game is quite likely the most deserving in it's own category.

The Tragedy of GJ 237b

You see? Different tastes exist. This is not one I would give any award to, sorry. And yes, I know it's possibly the only game in its category. I'd still wait for another.

Well, this RPG "project" could possibly be viewed through the lens of postmodernist deconstruction, including an attitude of skepticism, irony, or rejection toward the meta-narratives and ideologies of modernism, calling into question various assumptions of Enlightenment rationality.

One might consider that the meta-discourse underlying this RPG also targets universalist notions of objective reality, morality, truth, human nature, reason, language, and social progress, including the contingent or socially-conditioned nature of knowledge claims and value systems, situating them as products of particular political, historical, or cultural discourses and hierarchies.

Accordingly, one could infer that the underlying narrative and subtext of this RPG is broadly characterized by tendencies to self-referentiality, epistemological and moral relativism, pluralism, subjectivism, and irreverence.

Or not.
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That's a whole bunch of four dollar words.

Even worse! They're Canadian dollars!
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When I nominated The Shadow of Yesterday, Lady Blackbird, as one of TSOY's children, is part of what made it seem like a reasonable nominee.

Weird, there is nothing in Lady Blackbird’s entry about that, or any of the other stuff in Wild Blue Yonder. Why is that?

It's mostly just the "Keys" system that TSOY uses for character motivations/advancement. The rest of LB does not particularly resemble TSOY.

I didn't mean to imply that it's a clone, just a clear descendant. Note that Clinton is at the top of John's listed influences.
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Midgard

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I'm gonna nominate O Herói da Copa as the first-published "home grown" Portuguese RPG gamebook. Pedro Panhoca da Silva published a review and commentary about its wide and lasting influence in Brazil - see A premonitory gamebook: O Herói da Copa (1994), published in Alarums & Excursions (Issue 508 - Feb 2018).

It's also somewhat peculiar for being a "lifepath" CYOA style gamebook.
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Just s reminder that nominations are open through tomorrow!

I will try and get voting for the wildcard round up and running sometime in the next few days, largely depends on how jet lagged I am.
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For an English perspective I'll nominate GW Judge Dredd, Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks, and Lone Wolf Gamebooks.

And as it's been mentioned but not nominated (I think) En Garde!, which reminds me of Flashing Blades.
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Just s reminder that nominations are open through tomorrow!

I will try and get voting for the wildcard round up and running sometime in the next few days, largely depends on how jet lagged I am.

Jet lag is pretty bad right now, so we’ll see! Will try to get nominations in order this weekend.
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60.9% of y'all think there should be an age limit his year, and 45.8% of y'all think it should be ten years. That is officially not enough to do anything with this year. We will revisit after the contest.

Also, I find it weird that the second poll question had one more voter than the first one.
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For nominations, I will go with the more general version of an RPG where possible/it makes sense. But I'll be counting on you all to help make that determination in some cases!
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brumcg wrote:
I can't believe no one nominated the most popular RPG of all time (before the 10-year release limitation was added):

Legacy of Dragonholt


This was a serious nomination, right?
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We have 67 nominees so far! I will pick the top sixty games based on rank, and then the remainder will have a preliminary round for the last four spots.
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In the event something is not ranked (e.g. Midgard), I will use the highest rank within its family.

Speaking of which, should the nomination be for Midgard or Midgard? I feel like the latter.
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Just kidding! All unranked RPGs will be in the runoff for the last (currently) six spots.
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downeymb wrote:
brumcg wrote:
I can't believe no one nominated the most popular RPG of all time (before the 10-year release limitation was added):

Legacy of Dragonholt


This was a serious nomination, right?

Nope!
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Speaking of which, should the nomination be for Midgard or Midgard? I feel like the latter.

Seems reasonable, but I suggest hearing João's opinion. In case he specifically wanted to nominate the system/ include the Perry Rhodan RPG based on the Midgard system, we should go with the latter former.
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While we are on the subject of systems....

1. I decided not to combine Rolemaster 1st and 2nd into Rolemaster the RPG, since Middle-Earth Roleplaying was already nominated by virtue of being in the top 7 last year.

2. Should Pathfinder Roleplaying Game (1st Edition) instead be listed as Pathfinder?

3. Should Lone Wolf Gamebooks instead be listed as Lone Wolf?

4. Should Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks instead be listed as Fighting Fantasy?

5. Should Judge Dredd the Role-Playing Game (Games Workshop) instead be listed as Judge Dredd?

My feeling for 2 is maybe not? I don't know enough about 3-5 to make a determination.
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Speaking of which, should the nomination be for Midgard or Midgard? I feel like the latter.

Seems reasonable, but I suggest hearing João's opinion. In case he specifically wanted to nominate the system/ include the Perry Rhodan RPG based on the Midgard system, we should go with the latter.

I conciously wanted to nominate the system. Including the SF offshoot shows the versatility of the Midgard system, Even if Perry Rhodan: Das Rollenspiel is the worst RPG in the bunch.

Jolly Roger - Piraten in der Karibik should be included as a seperate game in this system IMO.
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downeymb wrote:
While we are on the subject of systems....

1. I decided not to combine Rolemaster 1st and 2nd into Rolemaster the RPG, since Middle-Earth Roleplaying was already nominated by virtue of being in the top 7 last year.

2. Should Pathfinder Roleplaying Game (1st Edition) instead be listed as Pathfinder?

3. Should Lone Wolf Gamebooks instead be listed as Lone Wolf?

4. Should Fighting Fantasy Gamebooks instead be listed as Fighting Fantasy?

5. Should Judge Dredd the Role-Playing Game (Games Workshop) instead be listed as Judge Dredd?

My feeling for 2 is maybe not? I don't know enough about 3-5 to make a determination.
I don't have a particularly strong opinion on 2, but the way the families work on here, it lumps completely different things together.
Lone Wolf Gamebooks are precisely that: gamebooks. But there is also an RPG, and they get lumped together, even though it's a completely different experience. Same with Fighting Fantasy.
There are a few different iterations of a Judge Dredd RPG, and the family lumps them together, even though they are completely incompatible.

In short, I'd rather keep the RPGs nominated, and not the families, unless expressly specified in the nomination.

I'll also go on record that I don't feel like an age limit will serve the GLAIR award well. I'd rather let the voting rounds sort it all out -- no need for restrictive rules.
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