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Art Gorski
United States
Prescott
Arizona
Get my Mac software for Classic Traveller at http://naasirka.weebly.com/
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Browsing some periodical issues, I noticed that the Traveller (Classic) logo was not showing. It appears that the image has been deleted for some reason, leaving the representative image undefined. Can this be recovered?
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Dave Bernazzani (@rpggeek)
United States
Plainville
Massachusetts
I wish to provide legendary service to the RPG community to help grow our hobby and enrich the lives of gamers everywhere.
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agorski wrote: Browsing some periodical issues, I noticed that the Traveller (Classic) logo was not showing. It appears that the image has been deleted for some reason, leaving the representative image undefined. Can this be recovered?
This happened to Basic D&D as well. I added a new one back - never found the old one. What's happening? A conspiracy!?
-Dave
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Art Gorski
United States
Prescott
Arizona
Get my Mac software for Classic Traveller at http://naasirka.weebly.com/
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wavemotion wrote: What's happening? A conspiracy!?
Or worse, database corruption. :shudder:
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Samuel Sol
Brazil
São Paulo
SP
All engines full to awesome land!
*tap* *tap* Is this thing on?
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agorski wrote: Browsing some periodical issues, I noticed that the Traveller (Classic) logo was not showing. It appears that the image has been deleted for some reason, leaving the representative image undefined. Can this be recovered?
It is possible that the image is gone because the account that created it was deleted by its user, if that is the case, unfortunately it can't be recovered.
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Dave Bernazzani (@rpggeek)
United States
Plainville
Massachusetts
I wish to provide legendary service to the RPG community to help grow our hobby and enrich the lives of gamers everywhere.
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yohanleafheart wrote: agorski wrote: Browsing some periodical issues, I noticed that the Traveller (Classic) logo was not showing. It appears that the image has been deleted for some reason, leaving the representative image undefined. Can this be recovered? It is possible that the image is gone because the account that created it was deleted by its user, if that is the case, unfortunately it can't be recovered.
I'm 99% sure that the Basic Dungeons & Dragons image was cropped and uploaded by me. And since I'm still an active [account terminated]
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Regional Man of Mystery
New Zealand
Christchurch
try the other overtext
No, nothing to see here
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yohanleafheart wrote: agorski wrote: Browsing some periodical issues, I noticed that the Traveller (Classic) logo was not showing. It appears that the image has been deleted for some reason, leaving the representative image undefined. Can this be recovered? It is possible that the image is gone because the account that created it was deleted by its user, if that is the case, unfortunately it can't be recovered.
I used it for the recent Overtext Treasure Hunt and still have it
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DMSamuel
United States
Ithaca
New York
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wavemotion wrote:
I'm 99% sure that the Basic Dungeons & Dragons image was cropped and uploaded by me. And since I'm still an active [account terminated]
I told you to let Aldie survive the dungeon of doom
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Young & Lawful Good
United Kingdom
Redhill
Surrey
Support comes in many forms: community involvement, forum posts, submitting data, word-of-mouth advertising, financial donations... All of these are vital to this site, and you have my sincere thanks for participating in any of them.
Currently: banned as per http://rpggeek.com/article/9104203#9104203
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SamNzed wrote: I used it for the recent Overtext Treasure Hunt and still have it
Excellent! Thanks for that, Sam. I've moved the image from your user gallery to the RPG, and set it to be the representative image.
That fixes the effect of this bug, but the underlying cause remains unknown. If this was due to a terminated account, I wonder which other entries have been affected.
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Young & Lawful Good
United Kingdom
Redhill
Surrey
Support comes in many forms: community involvement, forum posts, submitting data, word-of-mouth advertising, financial donations... All of these are vital to this site, and you have my sincere thanks for participating in any of them.
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If it helps, I've traced the image ID for one of the missing images: 588382 was the logo for 3D&T (a ghost of it is still visible at the 3D&T family level).
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Samuel Sol
Brazil
São Paulo
SP
All engines full to awesome land!
*tap* *tap* Is this thing on?
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Stelio wrote: Sol, is there any way to query a past version of the database to see who submitted the previously-representative images for these entries?
I will check, but I don1t think so. I would have to dig one of the full backups to process it. I can do a check to see what doesn't have a rep image anymore.
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Young & Lawful Good
United Kingdom
Redhill
Surrey
Support comes in many forms: community involvement, forum posts, submitting data, word-of-mouth advertising, financial donations... All of these are vital to this site, and you have my sincere thanks for participating in any of them.
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yohanleafheart wrote: I can do a check to see what doesn't have a rep image anymore.
Aw, man! Now you tell me!  I made all of these GeekLists manually:
 Earn GeekGold! Missing images for Settings
Earn GeekGold! Missing images for Series
RPGG 2010 Goals: A representative image for every ranked item
Earn GeekGold! Missing images for RPGs
Earn GeekGold! Missing images for Periodicals
(I need to update all of them at some point, actually. I haven't added new database entries to them for a while.)
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Young & Lawful Good
United Kingdom
Redhill
Surrey
Support comes in many forms: community involvement, forum posts, submitting data, word-of-mouth advertising, financial donations... All of these are vital to this site, and you have my sincere thanks for participating in any of them.
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Another traced image ID: 555973 was the representative image for Vampire: The Masquerade (1st, 2nd & Revised Editions) (a ghost of it is still visible here).
I've checked the contributions page on my profile, and the number of listed images is what I expect. I'm one of the more prolific image uploaders (for [RPG] entries, I've submitted about 15% of the logos) so it is highly unlikely that this is a random error (otherwise my count should have been hit). I don't have detailed image contribution stats for any other user for comparison though.
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Young & Lawful Good
United Kingdom
Redhill
Surrey
Support comes in many forms: community involvement, forum posts, submitting data, word-of-mouth advertising, financial donations... All of these are vital to this site, and you have my sincere thanks for participating in any of them.
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And another two:
Image ID 529201 was the rep image for Unpublished Prototypes (still visible here).
Image ID 542502 was the rep image for RPG Sandbox (still visible here).
Those are two RPG entries that stand out, so I wonder if anyone remembers who submitted images for those?
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Young & Lawful Good
United Kingdom
Redhill
Surrey
Support comes in many forms: community involvement, forum posts, submitting data, word-of-mouth advertising, financial donations... All of these are vital to this site, and you have my sincere thanks for participating in any of them.
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An example of a setting:
Image 543899 is missing for Blackmoor (visible here).
And for series, a bunch of the generic letters used for D&D series have gone (just look under the list of linked series for Basic Dungeons & Dragons). Someone must remember who made those?
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Samuel Sol
Brazil
São Paulo
SP
All engines full to awesome land!
*tap* *tap* Is this thing on?
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Tomorrow I will see if I can put some queries to get the list of items missing its repimages. I will also see if I can check the backups to try to be sure that no bug appeared, and it is just a matter of a delete user.
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While you are at it, I deleted the old version image for State Prison and it won't let me suggest a replacement.
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Regional Man of Mystery
New Zealand
Christchurch
try the other overtext
No, nothing to see here
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I was looking here today http://www.boardgamegeek.com/image/969867 to find that the SmallWorld image 969867 has vanished.
may be totally unrelated
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Scott Alden
United States
Dallas
Texas
Aldie's Full of Love!
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These appear to be related to a single user. Not a database bug.
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Dave Bernazzani (@rpggeek)
United States
Plainville
Massachusetts
I wish to provide legendary service to the RPG community to help grow our hobby and enrich the lives of gamers everywhere.
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Aldie wrote: These appear to be related to a single user. Not a database bug.
That's both good and also bad. Sad to see any user who has contributed delete their account. Is there some sort of process for when a user deletes their account but has significant contributions (i.e. more than a half dozen contributions)? If so, I'd love to talk to them before the account is really removed to see if we can still host their contributions. I assume database entries (i.e. not images) remain (I've never seen a database entry removed when a user leaves) but I'd hate for any good content to go away. For one, it means I feel like the site has let the user down and that bugs me... but also the missing content sets us back.
-Dave
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Old & Chaotic Evil Bob
United States
North Attleboro
Massachusetts
do you want to be my new host
I am EVIL, do not try to change my alignment
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sbszine wrote: While you are at it, I deleted the old version image for State Prison and it won't let me suggest a replacement.
Fixed
if you run into this again
sent me a geekmail with the image and item link and tell me what needs to be done
sometimes I need to clear the links and just make them again
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Old & Chaotic Evil Bob
United States
North Attleboro
Massachusetts
do you want to be my new host
I am EVIL, do not try to change my alignment
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wavemotion wrote: Aldie wrote: These appear to be related to a single user. Not a database bug. That's both good and also bad. Sad to see any user who has contributed delete their account. Is there some sort of process for when a user deletes their account but has significant contributions (i.e. more than a half dozen contributions)? If so, I'd love to talk to them before the account is really removed to see if we can still host their contributions. I assume database entries (i.e. not images) remain (I've never seen a database entry removed when a user leaves) but I'd hate for any good content to go away. For one, it means I feel like the site has let the user down and that bugs me... but also the missing content sets us back. -Dave
this problem was the subject of a recent BGG thread Account deletion wipes all associated content? Can this be changed?
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Art Gorski
United States
Prescott
Arizona
Get my Mac software for Classic Traveller at http://naasirka.weebly.com/
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Stelio wrote: SamNzed wrote: I used it for the recent Overtext Treasure Hunt and still have it Excellent! Thanks for that, Sam. I've moved the image from your user gallery to the RPG, and set it to be the representative image.
Actually, that's the logo for Traveller (Mongoose), not Traveller (Classic). I'll upload and propose a better logo.
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Eric M. Aldrich I
United States
California
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I'm afraid to ask, whose account got deleted?
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Scott Alden
United States
Dallas
Texas
Aldie's Full of Love!
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It appears the images were deleted by the user himself.
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